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titotal's avatar

I think the most pressing issue with regards to feminism in science is that sexism and sexual harrassment are sadly not that rare in science, especially in male dominated fields like physics. For example, I had a female friend doing a PhD whose lab partner told her that he wouldn't prepare samples for her unless she went for drinks with him. There is an excellent and very in depth youtube video from Angela Collier on the topic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNRBa39Iig.

It is clearly not good for science if half the population is discouraged from participation.

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My apologies if I am misunderstanding you, but your argument for why we should pick the higher utility theory where multiple theories are equally likely to be true. Doesn’t strike me as very persuasive, at least if I’m understanding you correctly. In your example where one theory is very difficult for most people to understand and the other theory permits amazing inventions The reason you should go ahead with the attempted inventions is because it has 50% chance of the payout being great. If the difficult to understand theory suggest that attempting to make these inventions could cause a great catastrophe, it doesn’t make sense to just believe the theory under which the world would appear to be better. Thinking the world is as you wish it to be isn’t going to actually change it and might actively hinder your attempts to improve it by worsening your understanding. In generally appears to me that considerations of utility don’t make sense when deciding what’s true. Instead of when deciding what to do. At least if by considerations of utility, we mean, believing the theory under which the world would have higher utility. Indeed, this kind of practice might be, especially bad for achieving progress on your issue. Imagine where animal rights, people would be if instead of trying to determine whether some animals are conscious or not They adopted their views for ideological reasons since after all the evidence is generally compatible with both possibilities. It’s not a perfect analogy, since generally, the evidence is not exactly 50-50, but my point is that believing social theories because they sound feminist might actually hurt the feminist movement more because its advocates would be misinformed about reality and hence make mistakes while trying to achieve their goals. There are hypothetical situations where it’s useful to believe false things, but generally to determine whether you are in one of those situations, you have to know the truth to begin with. In any case, I don’t think this is very relevant to the discussion. Since in practice, the bigger concern with feminist science is that people might believe something because it sounds good rather than because it’s useful to believe as I think, usefulness and truth will generally point in the same direction. To be clear, I absolutely agree with you on things like having male dominated data sets and historical biases in interpretation, although I am unsure whether the bias persist to this day, at least in the scientific community in the west, where most science is conducted, as scientists in general tend to be way more liberal than the general population.

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